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Quote 'o the Day

Soldiers get their lives endangered but no one is supposed to say jack. Liberals get their feelings hurt and scream bloody murder.

It's enough to make you a bit cynical.


- Juliette Ochieng (hat tip to Michelle Malkin)
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I think the point is more that special advisers to the President get to paint liberals in an extremely unflattering, and seemingly untrue, way, and not apologise for it.
and seemingly untrue

Well that's the bone of contention, isn't it? ;)

and not apologise for it

What happened to the cries of "that's what he believes!" and "free speech!" after Turbin Durbin's remarks? *g*
Well that's the bone of contention, isn't it?

Well he did basically say that not a single Democrat in NY wanted to get justice for 9/11, which at the very least seems a massive over exaggeration, if not an outright lie.

But then that's pretty much what I expect of Carl Rove as he's a politician, hence he's lying if his lips are moving. (Note that I hold this view for ALL politicians. ;)

What happened to the cries of "that's what he believes!" and "free speech!" after Turbin Durbin's remarks?

Weren't they drowned out by Republicans wailing on him?? :D
Well he did basically say that not a single Democrat in NY wanted to get justice for 9/11, which at the very least seems a massive over exaggeration, if not an outright lie.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about liberals, not Democrats. Strictly speaking they're not always the same thing ;) And I think the Clinton answer is "it depends on what the meaning of the word 'justice' is" *g*

(Oh, and it's Karl with a K)

Weren't they drowned out by Republicans wailing on him?? :D

I think they were drowned out by his blubbering ;)
I'm pretty sure he was talking about liberals, not Democrats.

I should be better informed before I walk into your LJ. ;)

"it depends on what the meaning of the word 'justice' is"

Don't you mean sex? Oh, that was the other Clinton. :D

Karl with a K

Sounds much more Sith Lord that way, I'm sure.

I think they were drowned out by his blubbering

That too.
I should be better informed before I walk into your LJ. ;)

You should read more blogs, man. They tell you everything you need to know *eg*

Sounds much more Sith Lord that way, I'm sure.

The K makes it more evil.
What happened to the cries of "that's what he believes!" and "free speech!" after Turbin Durbin's remarks?

Seems to me that there are an awful lot of those cries coming from the right... just as there were coming from the left, and yet Durbin apologized and Rumsfelt didn't.

What I'd like to see is some newscaster or newspaper to have the cojones to actually do an article on the accuracy of both statements, side by side. Look at the records from gulags and internment camps and see if there were similarities to the FBI report, and then start pulling out the post 9/11 party responses and see who said what.

The whole "what is true and what isn't" is a dog that won't hunt. Research WILL show the answer to both statements, and settle the truth.

And what's sad is, probably the only "news" show to stack film clips of then and now to show what was said or done when is the Daily Show.
Seems to me that there are an awful lot of those cries coming from the right... just as there were coming from the left, and yet Durbin apologized

Eh, he apologized because of Mayor Daley's comments, not because of what any conservatives said.

and Rumsfelt didn't.

Rove.

Research WILL show the answer to both statements, and settle the truth.

Yes, please, let's research the similiarities between Gitmo and the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge ;)
I'm starting to get the impression from comments that you're amusing yourself by making the liberals on your f-list jump.

let's research the similiarities between Gitmo and the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge

Tell you what, you resarch Gitmo and the Khmer Rouge, and I'll research Abu Garib and Nazi deathcamps and Soviet gulags. It wasn't what Durbin said, exactly, but it covers the same territory.

And while I'm at it, I'll research American techniques used on prisoners of war in previous modern wars and see if there have been any similar allegations - y'know, proof that actions like these are business as normal and aids the war effort.
I'm starting to get the impression from comments that you're amusing yourself by making the liberals on your f-list jump.

Damn, you caught me! Seriously, though... I read a lot of blogs, I post comments and links when they resonate, despite the fact that I do have dems and libs on my flist. And chiroho isn't a liberal... he's just a foreigner.

And while I'm at it, I'll research American techniques used on prisoners of war in previous modern wars and see if there have been any similar allegations

These aren't POWs, they're enemy combatants :)

Have fun!
These aren't POWs, they're enemy combatants :)

PoTAYto, PoTAHto. :D

Me, I'm going to take Chiroho's advice below, because it's wonderful and true for politics the world over. (And because it's too darn hot here to get hot over anything else at the moment.)
PoTAYto, PoTAHto. :D

Piffling legal definitions ;)

Me, I'm going to take Chiroho's advice below, because it's wonderful and true for politics the world over. (And because it's too darn hot here to get hot over anything else at the moment.)

Yes! -- the backyard is warming up and it's almost time for Day Two of Operation Tan Line to begin! :D
Must be much worse in the Abu Garib, since I don't think that the death camps had the horror of a handful of people who decided to party it up for a birthday and put underwear on the heads of the prisoners. I also suspect that there was a whole lot more, you know, DEATH in the Nazi death camps.
Yeah, I hear Hitler was a big fan of Fifty Cent :p ;)

It is honestly beyond my comprehension (and tolerance) how anyone, and I mean anyone (especially in this modern world, where knowledge and information of the worst evils of the 20th century are available to all whether through education or at our fingertips on the internet), can equate turning off the air conditioning & blasting rap music with the intentional murderous slaughter and mass starvation of millions upon MILLIONS of human beings, and attempts to wipe out entire races. The ignorance and insensitivity is mind-boggling in such comparisons.
That's a bone of contention...seriously???

Wow...I honestly don't even know what to say to you right now.

There are some serious distinctions to what Durbin said and what Rove said - but since I'm a liberal and therefore not worth the characters I'm typing with - I won't bother.
Now, now. It's just politics.

You need to spend more time hangin' with Aussies. Repeat after me:

- All politicians lie
- Never trust a politician
- Never believe a politician
- 'ave a beer and relax.

It will all be better in the long run.

Seriously, you know Darth Salmon Czar is just a big stirrer. It's why I enjoy playing on her LJ. :D
I guess I just need to stop playing since it does get under my skin - alot - when anyone, but especially someone I consider a friend, makes general sweeping statements like that.