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Check out this whine-fest from ABC. CNN has been pimping it on the Netscape home page.

Some Say U.S. No Longer Feels Like Home

*wipes a tear*

Of course, this story is almost a month old. I didn't realize the LSM was so hard-up for "news" that they had to start recycling old sob stories.

"We were leaving anyhow, mostly because we want to start a family and we don't feel our children can get a decent education in the United States," said Brian Sinicki, of Laramie, Wyo.

He said America's schools fail children by not teaching subjects like philosophy and civics, subjects that he said would give Americans not only a deeper understanding of the world, but an appreciation for why they should be more actively involved in the political process, not only voting but staying informed.

Please. I don't know about Wyoming, but here we do teach civics... only not until high school, when it's pretty much too late to form anything cognizant out of a skull full of mush. That's why kids have parent, dipwad.
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Sorry this is so long, but I think this is total rubbish.
I've attended English schools, Italian schools, a Montessori school, and an American school. Of them, American schools seem to be just fine. Different to the others in the material and the delivery (and sometimes better, particularly regarding some subjects), but certainly not deficient. Of course, it should be noted that my experience with American schools is limited to a very backwater rural Ohio public school, where the bare minimum is offered. And yet it was absolutely fine and I'm now attending what's considered a "Public Ivy League" university and have yet to be found academically wanting.

I had Civics in high school, as well, and though there wasn't a specific class for philosophy, we discussed various philosophical points in History, Government, and English.

The article's... well, crap. That's really all that comes to mind. I'm sick to the teeth of people complaining, because that's all they do. They complain, they don't make things better, or even have any idea of how to make things better (by their standards). They just want to gripe and throw around accusations.

If that family's seriously considering moving to Italy.... heh. Hope they don't expect it to be superior to America, I'm afraid, particularly in regards to the government and societal standards. It might sound nice to bitter ears, but I'd laugh if they really moved there.
Re: Sorry this is so long, but I think this is total rubbish.
Oh, it's such complete crap that it's funny. I haven't seen so many temper tantrums since I worked at the day care. Basically people just want to blame somebody, so they lash out at whoever they think that is a possible scapegoat. I wonder what will happen in ten/twenty years when their kid is still a loser despite having never attended an American school.
Please. I don't know about Wyoming, but here we do teach civics... only not until high school, when it's pretty much too late to form anything cognizant out of a skull full of mush.

They taught civics in my high school too. Most kids could have cared less. I doubt that's changed. I also think it has less to do with our education system and more to do with our culture of ignorance in entertainment and media (from MTV to movies to everything else). One could have a debate about whether that's always been the case for every generation, but the people whining about it aren't interested in having that debate. It's much easier to blame America and its education system instead.

So is where is Brian Sinicki, of Laramie, Wyoming heading to start his family? Europe? Have fun. When his kids' kids have to start wearing burkhas and grow up living in the shadow of Iranian nukes, I hope he comes back to tell us how much better it was not to raise kids in America. Yep.
They taught civics in my high school too. Most kids could have cared less.

The problem is that the schools usually do these classes during 12th grade, when seniors can see the light at the end of the tunnel and could really care less. There's always the overachievers who don't need to take the obligatory What's Your Political Philosophy Quiz -- heck, I was one of them -- but there's always going to be your ignorant slackers as well.

So is where is Brian Sinicki, of Laramie, Wyoming heading to start his family? Europe? Have fun. When his kids' kids have to start wearing burkhas and grow up living in the shadow of Iranian nukes, I hope he comes back to tell us how much better it was not to raise kids in America. Yep.

Let's start a fund to buy them their one-way tickets.
I didn't have a "civics" class. :o( I had economics, and government (both required to graduate). Same thing, different name? Or am I really from the sticks? :o|