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Yes, the previous 'story' was a joke. Unfortunately, this is not.

Troops find 'hostage slaughterhouses' in Falluja
FALLUJA, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi troops retaking the city of Falluja have found hostage "slaughterhouses" where people were held captive and beheaded, an Iraqi military official said Wednesday.
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I believe the press meant to call them "Freedom Houses" controlled by "Minutemen" as MIchael Moore called them.


Seriously though, how anyone can feel flushing this city of murdering terrorist savages is a worse thing than leaving it as it was is mind-boggling to me.
You have to wonder what is the point of trying to save these people from themselves. I know where your politics lie and I respect that. Still and all I can't imagine the sorrow and anger the soldiers felt when they discovered this house of horrors.

When all is said and done I hope there is something positive to come out of it. Right now I really have my doubts.

Ruralstar
You have to wonder what is the point of trying to save these people from themselves.

Because it's always better to try and save innocent people?
Because it's always better to try and save innocent people?

True enough but one has to wonder who is truly innocent here. Never mind the fact that there are plenty of innocent people who actually want us around.

At least that's how it feels whenever the body count rises.

Don't get me wrong. I support our troops. They were sent there to do a job and they've done it. Most of the time with grace and conviction under very difficult circumstances. But at some point enough has to be enough and the people we're trying to save have to take responsibility for themselves. Beyond the army and police there are Iraqi citizens. It is their duty to educate their children and themselves to at least tolerate what's being done. To try and see the value in it. Apparently there is a long way to go or suicide bombers-civillian bombers-wouldn't still be driving through checkpoints and blowing people to high hell.

Ruralstar
True enough but one has to wonder who is truly innocent here.

The hostages are innocent. The women and children who have no say in what's done to them are innocent.

But at some point enough has to be enough and the people we're trying to save have to take responsibility for themselves.

And there are plenty of Iraqis who was stepping up for their own country. That's one reason there's support from general Iraqis for the cleaning house of Falluja.