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*cue maniacal laughter*

Skimmed the non-shipper thread at GW. Snickered a little. Rolled my eyes a lot.

Now, I can understand why people get into it like they do even after all this time. Heck, I had to stop myself from jumping into the fray (if I'm gonna cause trouble, I'd prefer to do it on friendly territory :D)! But it's only because I genuinely enjoy debating people and seeing if I can make their heads explode. I don't actually think I'm going to change anybody's mind by posting my talking points for the one-millionth time. I learned back in X-Files fandom how pointless that was.

But I was having an interesting time looking at the whole mess from a sociological point of few. Because I happen to think that all long-standing problems like this have a few key roots. Like most of present-day society's problems stemming from the sheer number of children born out of wedlock-- but I'll leave that for another post! When it comes to fandom, the root is the same root that leads to so many problems in the 'real world': people loooove to be victims.

Oh, look at poor me, the ship is being shoved down my throat, it showed up out of nowhere in Season 4, if Sam had any self-respect she would have transferred to another team, Stargate isn't a romance and if it ends in a shippy way the show will be ruined for all of us team-lovers!

Give me a flipping break.

Now I have no beef with the idea of not liking ship. I mean, I don't know that I've ever met a TV or movie relationship I didn't like that didn't have something to do with the actors involved, but that's just me. I'm genetically disposed to want stories to end with a kiss at the altar, but I know not everyone carries those particular genes. No problem. But man, it's when the whining and kvetching and victimization starts that I get really annoyed. Because, you know, there are real victims out there, real reasons to get upset. It's a TV show, you morons, and as much as the toes would like you to think otherwise, the writers are going to do what they're going to do. It's not going to come down to, Well, we were going to have Sam and Jack end up married with seven children, but since a couple spazzes on the Internet are working up their blood pressure over it, we decided to have Sam start dating Siler instead.

By the same token, the outrage of the samandjack list would not stop Sam and Siler's ceremony, should it come to pass ;)

The ones who think the understand the matter militarily are the funniest. We're not talking about a show like JAG that has no advisors and does whatever it pleases. Stargate has a military advisor, and if she's not hacking the producers to little bits over whatever's supposed to be in Lost City, why do the unwashed masses on GW think they know better?

Oh yeah. Cause they're idiots.

*happy sigh* You know, that was sooo much more satisfying than storming GW.

Oh, and Rob, about the Jonas zine... er, I really want to do it. Really really. I'm even thinking about making it a zine-on-a-CD (seen it done in other fandoms, honest) so it could have more multimedia stuff and cost less to ship. And I have one story besides mine already. So if you have an idea, please write! If nothing else it will all go online together as a big beautiful lovely package :D
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As Alli tacitly noted...

By the same token, the outrage of the samandjack list would not stop Sam and Siler's ceremony, should it come to pass ;)

...the idiots are EVERYWHERE. The thread in question is just where a lot of them are congregating this week.

Yeah, but it just had coupons for a new chili dog place.

:: looks at previous statement :: Okay, that was a little freer than even I generally associate. It's possible I'm hungry...
Skimmed the non-shipper thread at GW. Snickered a little. Rolled my eyes a lot.

Now, see what happens when you go there? :-)


Now, I can understand why people get into it like they do even after all this time. Heck, I had to stop myself from jumping into the fray (if I'm gonna cause trouble, I'd prefer to do it on friendly territory :D)! But it's only because I genuinely enjoy debating people and seeing if I can make their heads explode.

Tee hee. I try and avoid the non-shippy threads like the plague if I go to the boards on GW. That's a big if. What I don't like is when the non-shippers make the shippers feel like little ingrates or whatever for liking the idea of Sam and Jack together. I really don't think they have a clue that most shippers I know (and granted that's not a lot) don't want to see them break regs, but would prefer them to get together after the series is over.


The ones who think the understand the matter militarily are the funniest.

I know. I saw a post where someone said (and I'm paraphrasing here), "I don't know, maybe it's the office romance or the military person in me, but if I see Sam and Jack get together it'll be all over for me." I was ready to say something like, "Um, don't you understand? Jack and Sam will never get together while they're still in the same chain of command. The Air Force will make sure of this, and I believe most shippers know this and are cool with it." Then again, I hear that the advisor is somewhat of a shipper as well, but that's strictly heresay. She does a fantastic job IMO.

Oh yeah. Cause they're idiots.

Hon, as mylo1012 said, there's idiots on both sides of the issue.

I do have a plot idea. It's most likely a relatively gen fic that's more action than anything else. I just have to juggle what to get done as someone else is demanding something from me by early March, *cough*sjhw_tolerance*cough*, so I was wondering when you'd want it.
it's when the whining and kvetching and victimization starts that I get really annoyed.

It does make one wonder about the sanity of people who get involved in fandom. But do you think they realize they are kvetching</>? :)
Right there with you on the "victim" thing. I'd place it squarely at the heart of this sort of thing in every fandom I've ever been in. And more than a few non-fannish cultural implosions I've witnessed.

Welcome to the sidelines. Marshmallow? ;-)