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From "Tongue-Tied"

The deep thinkers at Indymedia have come to the conclusion that the Lord of the Rings trilogy paints a 'racist stereotypical tapestry' that does a disservice to young viewers everywhere.

Lloyd Hart says people of color are all associated with the Dark Lord Sauron in the movie and the elephant-riding mercenaries too closely resemble the cultures of Africa, Persia and East Asia. The Uruk-hai also too closely resemble Native Americans, which is sure to cause 'a great deal of cultural and racial alienation.'

The fact that King Theoden, a white guy, calls his troops the 'great warriors of the West' clinches it in Hart's eyes.

'Can you imagine how people of skin color, of Persian, Arab and East Asian ethnic background feel when they come out of these films where all the heroes are white and all the "evil doers" are of dark skin.' Hart writes.

C'mon. I gotta have some non-Anglos on my friends list. How did you feel after seeing LotR? Discriminated against? Stereotyped? Vilified? Or maybe you're white and have problems with always being portrayed as the good guy ;)
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People like that are sooo stupid. Haven't they ever heard of context? Of course the men fighting for Mordor looked Persian/Arab/East Asian. They were. It's Celtic pre-history. Back then we were all fighting. Deal.

As for African orcs... I'm sorry, since when do black people have pointy ears and a smorgasboard of blue/red/yellow eyes?


*snickers all the way to bed*
Glad I could supply a snigger ;)

Of course, you know that history is very politically incorrect. We should just do away with it, save everyone a lot of emotional pain and suffering :D

Hm. That gives me an icon idea.
You know, it's moments like this that I thank TPTB for my AP U.S. History teacher in high school; she assigned us tons of other books in addition to the standard textbook so we would have a better perspective on all the different viewpoints for the history we were studying. Even cooler was that the class was combined with junior year honours English, and so we were not only reading all of these history books by different people, but the literature of the time period in context. Awesome year.
Wow. I wish I could have had an AP US History teacher like that, and not the dork we got.
Well, to people who are obsessed with political correctness, I don't think context matters. All they care about is that it might offend somebody, make them feel bad about themselves. Their priorities can be summed up in a single sentence: "And how does that make you FEEL?"

Not that I feel passionately about that at all ;)
I'll just add them to the list of people who need the concept of "fantasy" explained to them. It's a made-up place represented by an author from a long time ago, and earthly moviemakers. Context people!

My great-grandfather was full-blooded American Indian, and I think that all of the stereotypes were deserved. If they hadn't at least a bit of truth, they wouldn't have stuck.

When I see the movie next week, I'm certainly not going to be looking out for any real-world race correlation.
I'll just add them to the list of people who need the concept of "fantasy" explained to them. It's a made-up place represented by an author from a long time ago, and earthly moviemakers. Context people!

Along with the fruits crying about how bad fairy tales are for little kids to read, because in them beauty is related to goodness and ugliness with evil.
This whole discussion just makes me glad I'm now teaching at a school with intellegent leadership, unlike my former school. I really feel that my students that have read Tolkien's books have gained valuable exposure to literature.

Oh yeah. We have some nutty schools around here. I've had some nice teachers in the area let me know which ones to avoid.
It reminds me of what my professors used to tell us in college; that a teacher is a precious commodity, and there is no reason for us to put up with a moron pretending to be a principal. (The word moron was from me, but you get the idea.)
Ah, it's the good old "I think I'm a smart person, but am conveniently forgetting to put this whole thing in the right context when dissing it" thing.
Like people have already said before me: this is obviously someone who needs to have the concept of fantasy explained to them.
And they also need to realise just exactly when this story was written (just after both the Germans and the Japanese had tried to conquer the world. Gee, they both come from the east.. imagine that) and by whom (British guy, and, gee, imagine that, they had just formed an alliance with good white guys from the west to defeat the bad guys from the east!)

*rolls eyes*

I read this really great quote from the Dean of Harvard University: "You think education is expensive? Try ignorance!"

I don't know why I thought of that just now..
I just have to say Ditto Alli on that. You brought a new depth to this discussion. Thanks.
When I was a college student, I used to try to spend each winter break immersed in one subject, reading all I could get my hands on about it.

One winter, studied C.S. Lewis that way, and I was fascinated by the effect that Tolkien had on him, personally as well as in a literary sense. Besides poetry, Lewis also referenced the Arthurian legends in his "Space Trilogy."
Like I've said elsewhere in this thread, I don't think these people care that it's fantasy. They just see it as a part of society that's effecting people and might make someone offended. Or, like the example I gave Allie, about fairy tales being BAD for kids because they equate beauty/goodness and ugliness/evil (guess they missed Beauty and the Beast). Strange... I was a huge fan of fairy tales when I was little, and I don't think I have a complex about how I look...