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Thanks to Morjana...

Vocal_Minoriy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vocal_minority/

Here's the description:

"Tired of being dismissed as a 'vocal minority'? We're fans who signed on to watch "Stargate SG-1", not "Stargate: SamandJack". Fans who believe Stargate is a human drama in a scifi setting, not a soap opera. Fans who care about the team, about all four members of our SG-1 family. Whichever romantic pairing we may enjoy in fanfiction, onscreen we want the team together, we want their characters and integrity respected, not compromised for a grafted-on romance you can find on any soap and which excludes every fan who doesn't see it or want to watch it. We thought "Stargate: SamandJack" was behind us in Season 4, but now there's talk of a kiss coming up in Season 7. Have Sci Fi learned nothing from Showtime? We're not looking to flood your inbox with mail, in fact, there'll be no mail at all. Just join the group for a fuss-free, completely
private way to make your point. Stargate SG-1 onscreen = pro-friendship, pro-family, pro-TEAM. We're not a minority at all "

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Now, here's the interesting part:

This group was only formed on May 24th...(that's, uh, three days
ago)...

Yet -- there are 523 members.

Morjana


Unhuh. Can you say "sockpuppets"?

One thing is for sure... the phrase "our SG-1 family" smells just like the spoiled Denialite/OS brats, MS's footsoldiers. Shocking!
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I think the point that Jeanette was trying to make, and the reason people are annoyed with this list, is that obviously no one is going to be 100% happy with the way things go on the show. Some storylines we like, some we don't. Some we follow avidly, some we could care less about. But if the show took away every storyline that bored someone or made someone angry, there wouldn't be any show left! No one's saying that the show's focus should change to be All About Sam and Jack... we just want a little resolution, and of course a kiss would be lovely :) Considering that this is a storyline that TPTB initiated 6 years ago, I don't think that's too much to ask.
Yes, but there are also lists and sites and forums for people who basically threaten the producers to bring in the Sam/Jack. Because of this, I don't see the big deal about the list and why you all suddenly get all mad about it. Every group in the SG-fandom has an opinion and should be able to continue to do so without everyone getting so fed up about it. I know SG-fandom is in a delicious state and I really don't want to get involved in it all...

"No one's saying that the show's focus should change to be All About Sam and Jack... we just want a little resolution, and of course a kiss would be lovely :) "

See, I don't think it would be lovely, and I have my reasons. You have reasons to think it would be. I don't trust TPTB with handling romances, and so I don't want to see it on the show.

"Considering that this is a storyline that TPTB initiated 6 years ago, I don't think that's too much to ask."

Considering that i didn't even see the Sam/Jack until I looked for fiction and lists on the internet and saw everyone yelling 'Sam/Jack-moment' and 'UST' at every scene they are both in...

Let's agree to disagree.
Yes, but there are also lists and sites and forums for people who basically threaten the producers to bring in the Sam/Jack.

Which lists and sites and forums? How are they threatening?

Because of this, I don't see the big deal about the list and why you all suddenly get all mad about it.

Obviously.

Every group in the SG-fandom has an opinion and should be able to continue to do so without everyone getting so fed up about it.

I don't have a problem with their opinion, I have a problem with their actions.

I don't trust TPTB with handling romances, and so I don't want to see it on the show.

Where did I say I wanted a romance on the show?

Considering that i didn't even see the Sam/Jack until I looked for fiction and lists on the internet and saw everyone yelling 'Sam/Jack-moment' and 'UST' at every scene they are both in...

Alas, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there.
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"I don't trust TPTB with handling romances, and so I don't want to see it on the show."

Where did I say I wanted a romance on the show?

You know, I'm sick of banging my head up against this one. It's akin to those people who give an opinion about a film without ever having seen it. It seems to me that those who decry ship have absolutely no clue as to what we're actually talking about, or what we'd like to see. Every time I've tried to explain, I have visions of folks with fingers firmly embedded in their ears going, la-la-la-la.

Jeannette
"Which lists and sites and forums? How are they threatening?"

No links there, but I very much doubt that there are none. I saw some once.

"I don't have a problem with their opinion, I have a problem with their actions."

Well, I ask you: What actions? I'm not very active in fandom, I mostely lurk so maybe I'm missing something here, but it's just a mailing-list people can suscribe to. Or am I not seeing something here?

"Where did I say I wanted a romance on the show?"

I wasn't implying you wanted it on the show. I was saying that I don't want it on the show. And you posted this: "we just want a little resolution, and of course a kiss would be lovely :) Considering that this is a storyline that TPTB initiated 6 years ago, I don't think that's too much to ask." so I assumed you wanted it on the show...

"Alas, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there."

No, it doesn't. And that wasn't what I meant, but rather that it wasn't an integral, obvious part of the show. You can now argue that it was and that I just didn't see it, and that wouldn't get us anywhere because that really is all about opinions.

Eilan
No links there, but I very much doubt that there are none. I saw some once.

Ah, that's persuasive.

Well, I ask you: What actions?

Creating a list of sockpuppets for no reason but no make themselves look more numerous.

so I assumed you wanted it on the show...

A kiss isn't a romance. And if the characters got together after the show was over, it wouldn't be an on-screen romance.

Yes, but there are also lists and sites and forums for people who basically threaten the producers to bring in the Sam/Jack.

Proof, please? URLs, addresses, names, lists?