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Thanks to Morjana...

Vocal_Minoriy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vocal_minority/

Here's the description:

"Tired of being dismissed as a 'vocal minority'? We're fans who signed on to watch "Stargate SG-1", not "Stargate: SamandJack". Fans who believe Stargate is a human drama in a scifi setting, not a soap opera. Fans who care about the team, about all four members of our SG-1 family. Whichever romantic pairing we may enjoy in fanfiction, onscreen we want the team together, we want their characters and integrity respected, not compromised for a grafted-on romance you can find on any soap and which excludes every fan who doesn't see it or want to watch it. We thought "Stargate: SamandJack" was behind us in Season 4, but now there's talk of a kiss coming up in Season 7. Have Sci Fi learned nothing from Showtime? We're not looking to flood your inbox with mail, in fact, there'll be no mail at all. Just join the group for a fuss-free, completely
private way to make your point. Stargate SG-1 onscreen = pro-friendship, pro-family, pro-TEAM. We're not a minority at all "

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Now, here's the interesting part:

This group was only formed on May 24th...(that's, uh, three days
ago)...

Yet -- there are 523 members.

Morjana


Unhuh. Can you say "sockpuppets"?

One thing is for sure... the phrase "our SG-1 family" smells just like the spoiled Denialite/OS brats, MS's footsoldiers. Shocking!
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Excuse me?

First of all, maybe I misinterpreted this: "There are fans out there, myself included, who don't watch the show for Daniel Jackson. Do I get no Daniel Jackson because I now hate *him*?" , maybe I did.

"What I'm saying is, why does the show have to be what you want it to be."

Who said it has to be? I said that I would like it to not be Sam/Jack, and I implied that I would be angry at the producers if it were. But it doesn't have to be. It just angers me when people say that other groups have no right to voice their opinion.

"That attitude is sefish and ungenerous."

Thank you very much *bows*
(Anonymous)
I think misinterpretation is the order of the day.

Who said it has to be? I said that I would like it to not be Sam/Jack, and I implied that I would be angry at the producers if it were.

But you also said:
"Sorry, but there are a lot fans out there who don't watch the series for Sam/Jack and I think the producers should respect that."

If I read you correctly then respect means not going with those things that some people don't want or like. In which case, respect for those who don't want Daniel Jackson back on the show should mean not having him on the show; respect for those who hate the Replicators or the NID should mean not having those on the show, etc. etc.

It just angers me when people say that other groups have no right to voice their opinion.

I'll have to go back over the thread, but I don't recall anyone denying anyone else the right to voice an opinion.

Jeannette
"I think misinterpretation is the order of the day."

Probably...

"Sorry, but there are a lot fans out there who don't watch the series for Sam/Jack and I think the producers should respect that."

Because I think that not one group should be... (sorry, it's late and English is not my first language, so I can't seem to find the right word...) favoured overly. It happened when people brought MS back and the fandom got all wanky and basically split into two groups. Now I can see that it could happen again if there was Sam/Jack in canon. It would not do the fandom any good were it split because something happens that one half of the fandom absolutly loves and the other half absolutly hates. I want this show to continue and not to be canceled because of hate mails or something like that.

"In which case, respect for those who don't want Daniel Jackson back on the show should mean not having him on the show; respect for those who hate the Replicators or the NID should mean not having those on the show, etc. etc."

No, respect means listening to other ideas and seeing what's best for the show in that context. I can't bring myself to think that Sam/Jack would be good for the show and that's my personal opinion (shared by quite a few people in the fandom, I think, but well, I can only speak for myself here).

"I'll have to go back over the thread, but I don't recall anyone denying anyone else the right to voice an opinion."

The problem for me is the overall tone of the comments made. I got the impression when reading everything here that I shouldn't voice my opinion. And maybe I shouldn't have...
It would not do the fandom any good were it split because something happens that one half of the fandom absolutly loves and the other half absolutly hates.

And I don't want TPTB making decisions based on what the fans want. I think writing in is a good idea because I personally know the power of feedback ;) But the writers aren't going to go "Oh, we shouldn't do this because fandom - a teeny tiny minority of the overall viewing public - might go wacky over it". That's dumb.

I want this show to continue and not to be canceled because of hate mails or something like that.

That wouldn't happen. As far as companies like SciFi go, there's no such thing as bad attention. And if they got hate mail because of something shippy, I guess that only goes to show them how petty and immature the antishippers are.

No, respect means listening to other ideas and seeing what's best for the show in that context.

Yes, that is the job of the writers and producers and execs and I'm sure they will do that.

The problem for me is the overall tone of the comments made.

Tone doesn't mean that you don't have the right to say what you want. Which is a good thing, because I wouldn't want to have to worry about making my LJ 'politically correct' for everybody.
"But the writers aren't going to go "Oh, we shouldn't do this because fandom - a teeny tiny minority of the overall viewing public - might go wacky over it". That's dumb."

Well, they did bring MS back and I think fandom had quite a bit to do with that one...

"That wouldn't happen. As far as companies like SciFi go, there's no such thing as bad attention. And if they got hate mail because of something shippy, I guess that only goes to show them how petty and immature the antishippers are."

AFAIK They also got hate-mails for writing MS out, so i wouldn't be surprised. And that also showed the immaturity of these people IMHO. No group is perfect, I guess.

"Yes, that is the job of the writers and producers and execs and I'm sure they will do that."

I sure hope so, because I always enjoyed Stargate.

"Tone doesn't mean that you don't have the right to say what you want. Which is a good thing, because I wouldn't want to have to worry about making my LJ 'politically correct' for everybody."

And you sure as hell don't have to, it just sort of scares me off sometimes. A very personal thing.

Eilan
Well, they did bring MS back and I think fandom had quite a bit to do with that one...

I don't.

AFAIK They also got hate-mails for writing MS out, so i wouldn't be surprised. And that also showed the immaturity of these people IMHO. No group is perfect, I guess.

The two groups overlap quite a bit.

And you sure as hell don't have to, it just sort of scares me off sometimes.

Maybe I should put up a disclaimer. Warning, may scare people off.
"I don't."

Didn't say that :)

"The two groups overlap quite a bit."

Something i can't really comment on.

"Maybe I should put up a disclaimer. Warning, may scare people off."

:) Not necessary.

Eilan